Nacreous Snowmelt
Camellia

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Created by: Ragnarok VII
Submitted: over 4 years ago
Ranked: over 4 years ago
Source: n/a
Tags:
AlexDunk electronic kamel camellia hardcore psytrance hardstyle future bass drum n bass 200 step thx for 70k followers twitter
BPM: 201
Length: 7:00
Passes/Fails: 2247 / 10036

[4K] 26.95 - RG x AlexDunk's Everlasting Blossom

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

the clock ticking is present here as well, so I would signify it with a short LN as you did before.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

I know this is intentional, and it is an expert difficulty, but consider moving this triple 1/4 jack to the left hand only. Right after the difficult lachryma pattern (trills in columns 2 and 3 while holding LNs on 1 and 4) AND holding the LN in the 4th column this is ridiculously hard to keep combo on, even if you expect it.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

accepted with a few other minor changes to optimize playability

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

if you listen closely, the jump should be on the blue line before you put it, signified by the kick in the drumline.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

these six sounds in the song are all the same, so I don't see why you chose not to map the first two as a minijack as well.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

despite the similar rhythm, making the first two non minijack makes for a much smoother transition and feels more natural to play. honestly i would normally agree to this kind of consistency issue but this really does fit better.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

This burst is very sudden and I don't see a justification for it in the song.


Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

295832|4,295869|3,295907|2,295944|1,295981|4,296019|3,296056|2,296093|1 here as well, but it's comfortable to play so at least it won't be a problem to the players. Still, can't see where the song points to it.

Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

accepted for the first for playability. the second one was denied, because there's a lot of other parts that are quite dumpy in a similar fashion

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

since you're introducing a new part with triple jacks I don't see why there shouldn't be a triple jack here as well. Also, there are two triple jacks on the same column right after that, which is a bit harsh imo.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

this effectively doesnt make sense, but i'll need to wait for Alex's responses since it's his part.

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

i only do splits like that when theres a vocal line, and i dont want to do triple too many on left hand cause i dont feel comfortable playing it. so i would like to keep it

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

at this point you suddenly stopped placing minijacks despite the fact that the music does not change at all. Consistency is key.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

Also Alex's part.

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

applied.

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PianoLuigi
User
over 4 years ago

The whole transition to the next section feels pretty undermapped when compared to the rest of the map. There's pretty impactful 1/4 buildup and some other strong percussions, which seems more relevant than mapping only the vocal chant. I'd strongly recommend reworking this part.


PianoLuigi
User
over 4 years ago

This layering is more justified here, for example 344638|4,344638|3

Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

Also Alex's part, will await for his response.

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

applied.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

again, the second note does not exist in the song. No way to edit posts so I had to make a new one.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

the second note does exist, but it's a different sound so i'll ask Alex if he wants to change the pattern slightly

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

remapped.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

If you listen closely, the second note isn't actually present in the song, so there's no reason for a minijack.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

it is a bit less perceptible here, the sound still has kind of a pitch shift. will wait for Alex

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

reworked.

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PianoLuigi
User
over 4 years ago

This LN should be on this tick: 90537

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

I don't see a particular reason for the lack of notes in between these two. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

Alex's buildup but i'll answer for him: there is not really a sound there, and i dont think he mapped it at other places before

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

I'm not sure what these long notes (and others in this part) even represent. I think at times they show the smooth voice in the foreground, but it's not reflected well. If it does represent that melody, I suggest for example to add long notes here 82477|4,82626|2 to show the fact that the pitch is changing. In general in parts like this when the song uses very long notes, I recommend not breaking them up unnecessarily either.


AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

added long notes.

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Eclipse
User
over 4 years ago

these notes are descending in pitch, and aren't mapped this way. I suggest making them go from right to left to represent it. This entire calm part of the song isn't very dense, so pitch relevance is easy to notice and easy to change - I recommend you do that.

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

unnecessary triple imo
the triple would rather fit here 351952 actually

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

I think these are bit too overmapped and doesnt follow song intensity too well


arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

like the music there doesnt sound like 1/8

AlexDunk
User
over 4 years ago

theres like a bunch quite minor sounds its like 1/8 when i listened to it in 50% speed. but i reduced the amount of them since i only hear the sounds at the last four 1/8 notes. fixed.

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

Suggest tidying this part up so the intensity of the jack represents the melody, or the bass/drums

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

these all being triples might reduce the intensity of the last triple, which I think is the more important note
Suggest making the previous 2 doubles for emphasis

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

Double like what you did here: 103820|4,103820|1

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

I dont see any reason for this being a double

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

Triple?


Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

the triples are only used for the stronger drum in that section

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

According to the rules you were applying this should be a triple


arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

nvm disregard this my bad

Ragnarok VII
Creator
over 4 years ago

oh lol

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

I think this wub should be snapped here : 73298


arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

actually I think its on the 1/8th beat right under that timestamp

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

I think this wub is snapped 63746 here


arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

66059|4,66059|3 same with this , here: 66134

arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

68447|3,68447|4 same with this , here: 68447|4

arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

actually I think its on the 1/8th beat right under that timestamp

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arpia97
User
over 4 years ago

Add note?