Pf Concerto No.1 "Anti-Ares" (BlackY Remix)
virkato

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Created by: Fullest
Submitted: almost 3 years ago
Ranked: almost 2 years ago
Source: beatmania IIDX 20th Anniversary Tribute BEST
Tags:
Game Music, ピアノ協奏曲第1番"蠍火", Scorpion Fire, beatmania IIDX 11 IIDX RED, beatmania IIDX 27 HEROIC VERSE, Electronic, Instrumental, Piano, Jun Wakita, 脇田潤, DIRGE, ダージュ, PDM, Wakhmaninov
BPM: 160
Length: 4:21
Passes/Fails: 2463 / 1876

[4K] 23.65 - ANOTHER

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

Metadata: Artist name should be capitalized - Virkato Wakhmaninov


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

The artist name should actually just be virkato with no last name. In all game footage I've seen playing the original version of this track, the artist name has been displayed as lowercase "virkato" and the metadata for the track also has it as such.

https://remywiki.com/Beatmania_IIDX_20th_Anniversary_Tribute_BEST

I'll move Wakhmaninov to tags.

Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

A couple examples of footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKSCLhQw7rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cQeluJ6j8

Should be noted the song I mapped is BlackY's remix of the song displayed in the videos, but regarding original song metadata the reasoning should hold.

For good measure, here's a video of this song in Heroic Verse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LrAA9ymbXI

This only shows that BlackY remixed it with no mention of virkato as far as I can tell.

Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

It's been a while so I forgot, but the title is also maybe up for debate. I based it off one of the trivia bits on that remywiki page, namely:

"According to the game data, the arcade LED ticker displays "PF CONCERTO NO.1 "ANTI-ARES" BLACKY REMIX" when ピアノ協奏曲第1番"蠍火" (BlackY Remix) is played in a non-LIGHTNING MODEL cabinet. As the song is not available outside said LIGHTNING MODEL cabinets, this goes unused."

Honestly no idea what a lightning model cab is

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

seems good to me

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

206020|1,206020|4 , 207520|1,207520|3 , 209020|2,209020|4 i dont see a reason for these not to be hands as in all previous similar parts they have always been represented as hands

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

195707|1,195707|4 , 197207|1,197207|2 , 200207|3,200207|4 should all be hands


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

https://quavergame.com/mapset/map/49343/mods#mod_8738

Same reasoning as before, some of these are intentionally jumps.

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Suggestion
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

same as mentioned earlier. The sound these Ln's are mapped to goes down allot in intensity and then a little higher again. keeping this a hand Ln the entire way through is boring and less fitting in my opinion

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

also should be a jump to stay consistent with sound representation, since the basically exact same kicks in the same section are usually only mapped with a jump

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

should be a jump to stay consistent with sound representation, since the basically exact same kicks in the same section are usually only mapped with a jump

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

piano plays here. since you map to the piano this sound should be mapped


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

good catch, I didn't hear it

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

should be a jump

accidentally didn't mark issue on the other one woops

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

should be a jump


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

This is a hand because of the piano's more powerful chord usage, in addition to the kick.

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

for this one it doesnt make much sense to have the continues streams while there is still a clear enough gap to put in the hand to hand pattern that you use throughout the section

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

107207|1,107207|3 , 108707|1,108707|2 and 107207|1,107207|3 should all be hands to keep consistent with layering like 102520|1,102520|2,102520|3,102520|4,102707|4,102707|2,102707|3 and 104020|2,104020|3,104020|4,104207|1,104207|2,104207|3


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

This is intentional - the piano chords are just octaves or fifths (not sure which) at the jumps which results in a weaker sound.

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

alright

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

Should be a jump

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Suggestion
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

i feel like you could either remove only 46739|4 or both 46645|3,46739|4 to really put emphasis on the break that kind of falls here which makes 46832|3,46832|2 stand out allot more and it feels more fitting to the music imo

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

The sound these Ln's are mapped to goes down allot in intensity and then a little higher again. keeping this a hand Ln the entire way through is boring and less fitting in my opinion


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

You're right.

I tried something, it seems okay? I'm not entirely happy with it though, so if you have any suggestions I'm open to them.

Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

In keeping with this change, I've also modified the LN bits at 246895

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

seems good

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

should be hands according to 21332|1,21332|2,21332|4,21520|1,21520|2,21520|4 , 23957|3,23957|4,23957|1,24145|2,24145|3,24145|4,24332|1,24332|2,24332|4,24520|1,24520|3,24520|4


Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

In this case this is intentional due to the notes immediately following the pattern you highlighted: 27801|1,27801|2,27801|4,27895|1,27895|2,27895|4

I want for there to be a difference in density immediately before and after the notes above, but at this difficulty range I don't feel that it's appropriate to map these as quads either. The other notes you mentioned don't have this sort of thing immediately following them so the context is slightly different.

Additionally, I don't want to lower the hands you mentioned down to jumps since I'm layering the kick on top of the piano's chords.

I could be convinced otherwise, but I feel that the level of consistency you're asking for here would weaken the emphasis of the hands I mentioned. Let me know what you think.

Fullest
Creator
almost 2 years ago

I had apparently forgotten this idea when I was mapping at 159145… I've updated the latter to also be jumps

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
almost 2 years ago

This is sufficient reasoning to deny my mod. im ok with it