Painters of the Tempest (Part II): Triptych Lux
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Created by: A Fracture
Submitted: over 2 years ago
Ranked: about 2 years ago
Source: Citadel
Tags:
Death Metal, Marathon, Progressive, Violin, Raifu, Tech, Technical, JS, Jumpstream, Jump Stream, A Fracture
BPM: 215
Length: 15:55
Passes/Fails: 159 / 623

[4K] 30.13 - POGCHAAAAMP

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Unlike 654221|1,654221|2,654221|3,654397|1,654397|2,654397|3 No crash plays here. Which gives it less significance. So why not nerf this to a jump. This will also give the effect that 654927|1,654927|2,654927|3,654927|4 Is even more important and makes it stand out more

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should this not be at least a jump to represent snare

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Missing note to represent guitar since 615839 is also mapped?


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

the note at 615839 is used to repsent the slide effect there, not the represent the guitar in general. i thought the effect there was special enough to map

raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

apologies, the note at 615839 was to represent a palm muted note, the same played at 615751

raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

mod is still wrong regardless

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

This should be a jump according to layering around

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

The sounds these Ln's are representing are a little different from the normal bass and have almost cuts in them. For the effect I'd suggest making each Ln 1/2 instead of full length to more accurately represent the difference

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

snapped 1/4th

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

This is fine as is but would be even more accurate on the 1/8th snap

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

snapped 1/3th or 1/6th above


Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

issue

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Is a ghost note sine drums clearly start at 539109


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

drums start at 538927, they are just fading in

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

you use 2 Ln's 528017|2 and 530926|3 to represent the guitar. although this is only done here and not at 525109 , 533836 , 536745 etc.
It seems a little weird for these Ln's to be used here. unless there is a reason I am unable to see


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

you aren't listening for a certain chord represented by the guitar that i used for the ln. i did forget to place a ln at 539654., but the main melody is being played by the bass while the guitar in some of those is being played.

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

It seems like this timing point has the wrong offset

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

I would suggest turning this into a hand for emphasis on the crash and since you also emphasised crash at 454927|1,454927|2,454927|4

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Could add a note here to fill up this empty space and represent the guitar squeal

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should be an Ln since 364429 also is an Ln

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should be a single note since you chose to make 314614|2 a single note aswell. since the drum picks up at 314614|2 . same applies here where the drum picks up at 332615


Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

My bad. the 2nd timestamp should have been 314755

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Missing note to represent drum

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should be a jump to stay consistent with 310289|1,310289|4 and following


Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

326754|1,326754|3,326754|4 applies here to, More reasoning is that in this section this sound lacks importance as it is not a unique sound to this exact section and gets repeated throughout. it is a slight bit louder but it should not stand out as much that it should be represented as a hand

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

I see this quad unfit of the situation. making this a quad gives more emphasis to the quad then the actual drop at 296615 , while making it a hand would balance it out a bit more. there is also not a good reason for this to be a quad since similar sounds in the section right before have all be represented as hands


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

looking at the lyrics,"when all dreams lose hope", i put the quad there to indicate the dreams "losing hope", destroying them. i feel with the rise up and intensity of that one note makes for a better transition not musically accurately but for a feeling sense. because the quad makes the lyrics more accurate in my opinion

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Would turn this into a jump to further support the increased chord size usage for sounds at for example 288885 and 289385

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

The usage of these 2 Ln's are a bit weird since there is no clear progression from 266384|1 to 267718|4. These ln's are currently used to support that progression but since there are no clear guitar overlap sounds increasing the Ln density by adding these 2 Ln's creates a weirder effect that is less musically accurate.

Options to change this would be:
Remove the Ln's, Or remove the overlap in the ln's

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raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

before putting any more mods make sure to update mapset. offset has changed by 10ms

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

254395 Missing Ln. 258394|3 Missing Ln. 259561|1 Missing Ln (matches with 255561|1). 255728|3 Missing Ln (matches with 259728|3).


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

i believe getting rid of the lns in this section would be the better bet. i feel the lns aren't representing the sound i wanted to well

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

For how quiet these are I feel like they do not deserve jump emphasis. definitely in compare to the drum jump trill right after. Rather just anchor single notes in the same lane


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

i believe the pattern i gave them represents the sound perfectly. an anchor i feel wouldn't give it enough because its on every 1/1 beat and not 1/2 beat. besides the jt is a lot harder to hit, much faster than the pattern before, and gives it the representation it requires

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Personally would turn this into a jump to help the feeling of "calm"

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

My suggestion here would be to anchor the jumps with each other to put emphasis on the "repeating" music


Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

This repeats

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Ignore this

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should be a hand cause of the snare kick

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Should be a hand


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

184471|1,184471|2,184611|1,184611|2 if these get to be jumps, those get to be jumps too. plus this same sound is present in here 30425|2,30425|3,30564|2,30564|3 and you didn't point it out. i dont agree with them being hands, they dont have the same emphasize as the hands before and after it

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

These jumps should be an anchor with each other to match with 182797|3,182797|4,182937|3,182937|4

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

This either should be turned into an Ln to match up with 144983|3. Or 144983|3 should be turned into a normal note

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Ln should be cut and a new one should start at 133960 To correctly follow the violin

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

It is very minor but this violin has a minor flow to it which you could use to justify to split the ln at 132844 into a new ln


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

dont agree with it, i do hear the emphasize on the bow stroke but i dont agree it being enough to justify a new ln. plus most of the lns in this section are longer ones, having an ln going on for only 2 beats might disrupt the flow of gameplay during this part.

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

The Ln should be cut to follow the change in violin at 131728


Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

I meant to say split the ln into a new ln

raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

why should it be split into a new ln? its the same note being played is it not? its just vibrato instance which might make it seem like its a new note but its not

Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Fair point. You could use the vibrato as a basis to start a new Ln for a nicer effect that more accurately represents the use of the vibrato in the violin

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

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Issue
Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

119449 till 121123 The map features a mostly unexplained change of density. This does spice the patterning up however it is inconsistent with the set up layering of this part 119727|4,120146|2,120285|1

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

Missing Ln. Should be an Ln mapped like 112472 and 114705

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

In the pattern 107355|4,107448|3 I feel like you are missing a note at the given timestamp. This note is missing cause you mapped the previous same repeating patterns all with 3 notes. for example : 101169|2,101239|3,101309|4 , 103960|3,104030|1,104099|4 , 105588|2,105681|3,105774|1 , 106704|3,106797|1,106890|4


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

timestamps aren't working for me, explain in dms

raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

nevermind, fixed the timestamp issue. its not a missing note, violin just isn't played at this part. listened to this multiple times at 25% speed when charting and violin is not played here. i agree it makes gameplay a little weird to play but otherwise it would've been a ghost note

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

I would personally move this one 1 up to the 1/1 snap to more emphasise 74239 and also to create a more emphasised anchor jack between same lane hand 74239 and 74379


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

very confused explain in dms

raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

nevermind im just very slow

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Linlime
Ranking Supervisor
about 2 years ago

844|4 , 2518|1 , 4192|3 all 3 of these are ghost notes


raifyx
Creator
about 2 years ago

mod done by 2nil

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

The structural change here differs greatly from that of 94751. So maybe apply that density to 94751

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

Missing jump maybe, idk

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

A bit late but the first timing point is 10ms late just a heads up

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

More hands for consistency

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

There isn't anything justifying this being any larger than a jump, so you should change it to that

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

This should also be a hand for consistency

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

Should be a hand for consistency

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

Another note that goes to nothing

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

Another note that goes to nothing

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

These notes are mistimed

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2nil
User
over 2 years ago

This note doesn't go to anything